Comments on: We can’t leave now… http://blog.anubite.co.uk/index.php/2007/06/21/we-cant-leave-now/ Ponderances of a MediaWiki developer Fri, 07 Aug 2009 18:25:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: robchurch http://blog.anubite.co.uk/index.php/2007/06/21/we-cant-leave-now/comment-page-1/#comment-393 robchurch Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:52:32 +0000 http://blog.anubite.co.uk/index.php/2007/06/21/we-cant-leave-now/#comment-393 Well, I think the point isn't that we're doing the right thing by being there, but that we're bloody stuck for a few more years now. This is almost certainly going to become the UK's Vietnam. Well, I think the point isn’t that we’re doing the right thing by being there, but that we’re bloody stuck for a few more years now.

This is almost certainly going to become the UK’s Vietnam.

]]> By: Nick Jenkins http://blog.anubite.co.uk/index.php/2007/06/21/we-cant-leave-now/comment-page-1/#comment-392 Nick Jenkins Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:47:52 +0000 http://blog.anubite.co.uk/index.php/2007/06/21/we-cant-leave-now/#comment-392 Yeah, but there has to be some point at which you say "enough". Vietnam took around 12 years (from the early 60's to 1973) from large-scale-intervention to withdrawal. I think we've grown less patient and less trusting of our politicians since then, so I doubt we'll wait much more than half that long now. It's been over 4 years already, and many people are starting to say "enough" (at least here in Australia, seeing as we got sucked into the Iraq War on false pretenses too, although not to the same scale as the US & UK). So sooner or later someone will get elected who vows to pull the plug, and it's hard to argue morality to citizens who have simply had enough of seeing their soldiers come home in body bags from a war which is both illegal and immoral (illegal under the UN charter, and immoral because the arguments used the justify the war of WMD + terrorist links + torture were all either completely wrong, or invalidated by the use of torture by the US). Yeah, but there has to be some point at which you say “enough”. Vietnam took around 12 years (from the early 60’s to 1973) from large-scale-intervention to withdrawal. I think we’ve grown less patient and less trusting of our politicians since then, so I doubt we’ll wait much more than half that long now. It’s been over 4 years already, and many people are starting to say “enough” (at least here in Australia, seeing as we got sucked into the Iraq War on false pretenses too, although not to the same scale as the US & UK). So sooner or later someone will get elected who vows to pull the plug, and it’s hard to argue morality to citizens who have simply had enough of seeing their soldiers come home in body bags from a war which is both illegal and immoral (illegal under the UN charter, and immoral because the arguments used the justify the war of WMD + terrorist links + torture were all either completely wrong, or invalidated by the use of torture by the US).

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